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Really very confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek message, that I really did not explain ... my negative In reply to spitfirebill: I added that point since when I needed to discover a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go via each in every junkyard in South Jacket to discover one that wasn't sludged up truly terribly.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're going to speak about a few concerns of these vans, however I I'm clearly not mosting likely to come out and state one is far better than the various other. If that's what you're looking for, you'll have to wait. Mark: So what are several of the differences in between these two brands? Bernie: Well, they're basically the very same automobile.
Mark: So, well, let's start with engines then. Allow's chat about engine and in fact just to specify that the design years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you recognize, I imply, these vans have been around for a long time.
And, you understand, for a version of a Chevy van has actually been around considering that, you understand, around that time also. Since 2000, I imply, Ford's, you can obtain these with V6 engines or V8s.
There's a lot of concerns with these engines. In the earlier 2000 spark plugs with strike to these engines, due to the fact that they didn't have enough threading in the spark plug, which triggered problems.
If you're buying anything from probably 08 and more recent, you're not going to have that kind of trigger plug concerns. Various other locations though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will certainly leak, they'll develop coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold usually you have to change the entire point.
And there's some issues, the Ford engine I have to say in their favour, due to the fact that I'm discussing troubles, it's a much more advanced engine. Overhead web cam, so you're obtaining even more power and performance out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is a less complex layout with push poles.
They're just really respectable, sturdy, strong engines. You understand, being a van, of course, you recognize, doing any service on them is more difficult since you have actually got to get rid of that cover and enter servicing in odd ways. Things like stimulate plugs last an awful lengthy time, so they do not need to be replaced very often.
Mark: Can you purchase these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a long time, like method back prior to the 2000 version year.
You know, that's still available. If you're a say, I don't recognize, I'm just going to claim a plumbing professional and you've got like a lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're hauling a trailer behind it, that would certainly be a really good usage of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it looks like the diesels are, they seem to have less troubles in vans than they carry out in the vehicles. Probably due to the fact that they aren't functioned so hard, but when things take place, they're really costly to fix. We've obtained a great deal of videos and info concerning diesels, especially the Fords.
You really need to believe two times about getting a diesel in a van. That's my recommendation. Mark: Yeah, so in shape for function, make certain that you're suitable the engine that you're purchasing for the function that you're endeavouring to meet. Bernie: Yeah, exactly. And I will certainly say, Chevy is virtually limited to V8 engines, however Ford has a V 10 engine too, which is a monstrous gas guzzling engine.
Yet if you're, and once again, we're simply discussing kind of a directly, regular cargo van here. The diesel definitely isn't the finest alternative. Check out your purpose, your use, exactly how much weight you're carrying and that'll assist you make the decision. Mark: What about the transmission and the rest of the drive train? Bernie: They're quite much equal.
One point that we have not discussed here is what type of van. These vans are, and it depends on what version, they're offered ever before from half bunch to one ton framework and actually several of the cutaway vans are actually a lot more durable, like, you recognize, 450s and 550s for say the Fords.
Bernie: You know, I'm going to give the side to Ford on this one. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little simpler.
There's much less steering link included in a Chevy. There are much less parts to wear out. They do a ball joints that break. Do Chevy's, but it seems, and the Chevy's probably last a little longer than the Fords, but the, you understand, the steering link is a lot less complex, so there's less components and much less things to use out.
The adventure in a Ford is probably a little bit extra vehicle like however I don't recognize if you 'd actually ever really discovered a distinction in between the two. It looks like their elements are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What concerning brakes? Bernie: Brakes are practically the very same, but I will certainly claim that it feels like with Fords, the means they construct their brake calipers, that they tend to require to be changed nearly whenever you do a brake task.
For some factor, they appear to last for one brake job. And then a great deal of times we take the brakes off and claim, Oh, the dust boots torn, therefore the caliper requires to be changed. I believe on a Ford and you can expect to invest a bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to digress back before the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had really negative doors. I indicate, the moving doors were crap, you recognize, actually terribly constructed. In fact, I would certainly state that if you are even considering something older, it feels like Chevy and GMC vans actually and their trucks generally really took a jump forward in high quality around the 2000 version year, due to the fact that there was a whole lot of things where the brakes as an example would certainly not last very long whatsoever.
If we're looking at the 2000 more recent, I indicate, I would certainly claim they're both possibly rather much matching in top quality, fit and coating, you know, some of the guest vans, of course we'll have nicer visits than the freight vans. I can not state that one of them stands out to me a little even more than the various other.
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